Last word on CW 10 before this group is dead

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ffsghsfhdgs - 10 Mar 2006 10:03 GMT

Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.

1. Does CW 10 completely run and debug on the
latest Mac OS X Tiger update (10.4.5 I think)?

2. While CW 9 had some problems, has CW 10
introduced any new serious problems?

3. Has anyone tried running and debugging with
CW 10 under Rosetta on a new Intel Mac?

Of course, any new development will be done
with Xcode. But we have several apps that will
likely never be converted to Xcode. So I'm just
trying to get a handle on how to chart support
for these older apps.

Thanks

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Andy Bettis - 10 Mar 2006 13:01 GMT

> Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
> there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.
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> trying to get a handle on how to chart support
> for these older apps.

And another couple:

4. I support several 'legacy' programs developed with CW up to CW 9. Is
there any compelling reason to upgrade to CW10. Is the licensing all
soret now?

5. What happens to CW10 when Freescale finally dump it? Freeware?

Rev. Andy

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toby - 11 Mar 2006 02:29 GMT

> > Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
> > there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.
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> 5. What happens to CW10 when Freescale finally dump it? Freeware?

Rather unlikely since despite repeated suggestions they've never freed
any earlier version, no matter how ancient.

> Rev. Andy

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Isaac Wankerl - 12 Mar 2006 00:02 GMT

> Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
> there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.
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>
> Thanks

If you are going to purchase Pro 10, you might need to do it fairly
soon. The webpage says "This product is sold without support and will
not be sold after the first quarter of 2006."

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Van Bagnol - 14 Mar 2006 05:33 GMT

> > Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
> > there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.
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> soon. The webpage says "This product is sold without support and will
> not be sold after the first quarter of 2006."

I just purchased CW 10 as a "just in case" measure, as I still have to
support a PowerPlant app and it may be a while before I can concentrate
porting it to Xcode. Do I have to install CWP 10 soon to get an
"authorization code" from Freescale before they pull the plug, or is the
serial number they send with the purchase confirmation all I need to get
it up an running?

Van

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Isaac Wankerl - 14 Mar 2006 07:51 GMT

> > > Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
> > > there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.
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>
> Van

You will need to register your copy. Freescale should give you a
license key even if you do it later but why would you want to wait?

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Van Bagnol - 15 Mar 2006 22:32 GMT

> > > > Before we turn out the lights to this news group,
> > > > there are a couple of final questions about CW 10.
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> You will need to register your copy. Freescale should give you a
> license key even if you do it later but why would you want to wait?

I'm actively making changes to the code at the moment and don't want to
risk changing IDE versions until I get this release out.

Van

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Jonathan Hoyle - 12 Mar 2006 00:26 GMT

>> 3. Has anyone tried running and debugging
>> with CW 10 under Rosetta on a new Intel Mac?

I have tried it. It compiles but does not debug on Intel-based Macs.
I wrote a review for it which you can find at:

http://www.maccompanion.com/archives/december2005/Software/Metrowerks.htm

Jonathan Hoyle
macCompanion

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Peter Lui - 15 Mar 2006 19:21 GMT

> I wrote a review for it which you can find at:
>
> http://www.maccompanion.com/archives/december2005/Software/Metrowerks.htm

Why did you give it 4 of 5 stars? Just curious.

From the review:

"Due to extraordinary shortsightedness on the part of Freescale,
Metrowerks' parent company, CodeWarrior has gone from dominant
marketshare to product cancellation in only two short years".

This was the inevitable outcome from decisions by one person, CEO Jim
Welch. Jim hated Macintosh for the day he joined the company even
though it paid his inflated salary.

He single handedly drove the Apple and MW partnership apart when he was
CFO and hammered the final nail into the coffin as CEO.

Through firings, budget cuts and other means, he drove MW's Mac
developers away and threw a commanding marketshare lead to the wind to
satisfy his own ego. When MW finally hit rock bottom, he left MW for
another company (Wireless Valley) which is now part of Motorola. See
the pattern? MW management incompentent in every way except one: it
brilliantly executes mergers after bloating and fasting the company
before financial ruin making it an attractive bargain to prospective
buyers. Fiscal responsibility, growth and revenue are a secondary
concern and the customers/employees suffer as a result.

Before MW, Jim worked at Coopers & Lybrand as an accountant. Motorola
literally put the bean counters in charge and it destroyed the company.
David Perkins was head bean counter before Jim. A cautionary tale on
hiring practices. Galanos and Belanger's #1 mistake (perhaps only
mistake) was hiring those guys.

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Jonathan Hoyle - 16 Mar 2006 06:30 GMT

>> Why did you give it 4 of 5 stars? Just curious.

Mainly because of the genuine last efforts of the remaining CodeWarrior
development team (essentially Josef Wankerl) to clean up and get the
final work done for this final release. For a Mac-only product, 10 is
better than 9.x in most every respect. And you can't beat the price.

Admittedly though, the 4 star rating is for the target audience of
current CW users who are deciding whether or not to upgrade. For those
already on Xcode, no such recommendation exists.

Jonathan Hoyle
macCompanion

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Last word on CW 10 before this group is dead