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Lennart.Thelander@berga.nu - 17 May 2005 10:34 GMT

Hi.

After installing Mac OS 10.4, my mach-o apps will no longer compile
with CodeWarrior 8.3. "Can't read Dylib". I try to "BuildLibraries" (in
the MSL folder), but the file "ppc/ansi.h" is now missing (along with
others) so I get thousands of compile errors. What gives?

Buying CW 9 is not an option, since it's "unavailable" according to
Metrowerks site.

Regards
Lennart Thelander

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Stephane Madrau - 17 May 2005 14:17 GMT

> After installing Mac OS 10.4, my mach-o apps will no longer compile
> with CodeWarrior 8.3. "Can't read Dylib". I try to "BuildLibraries"
> (in the MSL folder), but the file "ppc/ansi.h" is now missing (along
> with others) so I get thousands of compile errors. What gives?

I've successfully built my Mach-O apps on Tiger by setting the {OSX Volume}
path to point on the /10.2.8 SDK/ (as well as on the 10.3.0 SDK; but no more
on the 10.3.9, since this ones includes new type of dylibs that the CW8
linker cannot handle).
I have also switched from MSL libs to the BSD libs. I have built these on a
previous version (10.3.8 IIRC, I have not tried to rebuild them on 10.4).

In fact I had most of the difficuties when I installed 10.3.9. Then I needed
the above modifications. Afterwards, the upgrade to 10.4 went flawlessly.
It's possible that it depends on the frameworks that you use in your apps,
it's possible that some dylibs were updated before 10.3.9, but I personnaly
had no problems with 8.3 before.

The only thing that now doesn't work any more (in the IDE) is drag-and-drop
of files from the Finder in project windows.

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trygveinda@gmail.com - 17 May 2005 22:27 GMT

How does one do this? I have 10.3.9 running on one system and 10.3.8 on
another. Will CW8.3 not work under 10.3.9?

I am using Dev Tools 1.5 and linking with mwcrt1.o

In XCode Tools I have MacOSX10.3.pkg and MacOSX10.2.8.pkg. What do
these do? I installed the standard install package from the Dev Tools
CD.

Thanks,

T.

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Lennart.Thelander@berga.nu - 18 May 2005 08:30 GMT

> How does one do this? I have 10.3.9 running on one system and 10.3.8 on
> another. Will CW8.3 not work under 10.3.9?

Yes, CW 8.3 works fine under 10.3.9. It doesn't work under 10.4, not
even when using the 10.3.9 SDK. In fact the 10.2.8 SDK was worse than
the 10.3.9 SDK with more errors to fix.

/Lennart

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Stephane Madrau - 18 May 2005 08:40 GMT

> It doesn't work under 10.4, not
> even when using the 10.3.9 SDK.

That's certainly false, depending on the projects you have.
It works fine on my config, with both the 10.2.8 or 10.3.0 SDK.

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kiyookasan - 19 May 2005 00:30 GMT

I agree. No trouble building either mach-o or CFM binaries on my new
Tiger install as long as using 10.2.8 SDK as the OSX Root.

Gen

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Lennart.Thelander@berga.nu - 25 May 2005 07:55 GMT

Lennart.Thelan...@berga.nu wrote:

> It doesn't work under 10.4, not
> even when using the 10.3.9 SDK.

>That's certainly false, depending on the projects you have.
>It works fine on my config, with both the 10.2.8 or 10.3.0 SDK.

Clarification:
I can't build MetroWerks "BuildLibraries" under 10.4 or 10.4.1, even
when pointing to 10.3.9 SDK or 10.2.8 SDK. Using the 10.3.9 SDK it's
the PowerPlats that doesn't build. I'm not using PowerPlant, so I'm OK.
I never tried building my apps before building the libraries. It might
have worked.

/Lennart

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Stephane Madrau - 25 May 2005 10:47 GMT

> I can't build MetroWerks "BuildLibraries" under 10.4 or 10.4.1, even
> when pointing to 10.3.9 SDK or 10.2.8 SDK.

I also think I encountered this problem. I can't remember what I did,
but I've been able to work around, with the 10.3.0 SDK. I just know had
to tweak for the MacHeaders (which at the end built fine with the 10.4.0
SDK), and also for the MSL libs.

> Using the 10.3.9 SDK it's
> the PowerPlats that doesn't build. I'm not using PowerPlant, so I'm OK.

I don't either. In all cases, I'm conscious it's just a temporary
solution, just to allow to continue working.

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MW Ron - 26 May 2005 15:25 GMT

>> I can't build MetroWerks "BuildLibraries" under 10.4 or 10.4.1, even
>> when pointing to 10.3.9 SDK or 10.2.8 SDK.
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>I don't either. In all cases, I'm conscious it's just a temporary
>solution, just to allow to continue working.

Here is the fix for 10.3 I assume you have to make similar fixes for
10.4

Ron

for 8.3 and 10.3...

Get the XCode Tools CD, reinstall it, choose the optional packages and
there is a 10.2.7 SDK install that, you can do this even after doing
the original installation.

In CodeWarrior 8.3 global Preferences...
change your Source Tree for OS X Volume
from
/
to
/Developers/SDKs/MacOSX10.2.7SDK/

If you want to stop here you can if you have already updated to 8.3 on
10.2

But I recommend that you re-precompile the Mach-O precompiled headers .
Open the BuildMacOSXSupport.mcp
in
Metrowerks CodeWarrior 8.0
/Metrowerks CodeWarrior
/MSL/(MSL_Build_Projects)
/OS X

and build all in that.

But to rebuild the libraries...

Then... this is an unofficial and non-supported fix. Since it involves
changing Apple's header

In Apple's Limits.h
in /Developers/SDKs/MacOSX10.2.7SDK/usr/include/ppc/limits.h

Change

#ifndef _PPC_LIMITS_H_
#define _PPC_LIMITS_H_

#define CHAR_BIT 8 /* number of bits in a char */
#define MB_LEN_MAX 6 /* Allow 31 bit UTF2 */

#define CLK_TCK 100 /* ticks per second */

to

#ifndef _PPC_LIMITS_H_
#define _PPC_LIMITS_H_

#define CLK_TCK 100 /* ticks per second */

#if !_MSL_USING_MW_C_HEADERS

#define CHAR_BIT 8 /* number of bits in a char */
#define MB_LEN_MAX 6 /* Allow 31 bit UTF2 */

At the end of the file add
#endif /* _MSL_USING_MW_C_HEADERS */
before
#endif /* _PPC_LIMITS_H_ */

Rebuild the precompiled headers and rebuild the MSL Mac OS X libraries
Open the Build.MacOSX.mcp
in
Metrowerks CodeWarrior 8.0
/Metrowerks CodeWarrior
/MSL/(MSL_Build_Projects)
/OS X

You should be OK

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Michael Wingfield - 20 May 2005 00:03 GMT

>>After installing Mac OS 10.4, my mach-o apps will no longer compile
>>with CodeWarrior 8.3. "Can't read Dylib". I try to "BuildLibraries"
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> The only thing that now doesn't work any more (in the IDE) is drag-and-drop
> of files from the Finder in project windows.

Specifically what are the steps we need to do to point to /10.2.8 SDK/ ?

Thanks,
Mike

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Stephane Madrau - 20 May 2005 08:04 GMT

> Specifically what are the steps we need to do to point to /10.2.8 SDK/ ?

First install the SDK from the Panther or Tiger install disc.

Then, in the CW IDE Preferences, change your Source Tree for {OS X
Volume} from "/" to "/Developer/SDK/MacOSX10.2.8SDK/"

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Michael Wingfield - 21 May 2005 21:40 GMT

>> Specifically what are the steps we need to do to point to /10.2.8 SDK/ ?
>
> First install the SDK from the Panther or Tiger install disc.
>
> Then, in the CW IDE Preferences, change your Source Tree for {OS X
> Volume} from "/" to "/Developer/SDK/MacOSX10.2.8SDK/"

Bear with me on this one: I really need to get this to work.

Where is the SDK on the Panther install disc?
Do I need to reinstall something AFTER I installed Tiger?
I already have a /Developer folder but no SDK folder inside.

Thanks in advance,
Mike

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Dave Seaman - 22 May 2005 00:07 GMT

>>> Specifically what are the steps we need to do to point to /10.2.8 SDK/ ?
>>
>> First install the SDK from the Panther or Tiger install disc.
>>
>> Then, in the CW IDE Preferences, change your Source Tree for {OS X
>> Volume} from "/" to "/Developer/SDK/MacOSX10.2.8SDK/"

> Bear with me on this one: I really need to get this to work.

> Where is the SDK on the Panther install disc?

It's not on the Panther install disc. There is a "MacOSX10.2.pkg" on the
XCode Tools disk that comes with Panther, but the SDK that it installs is
10.2.7, not 10.2.8. This is the one I used under Panther, and it worked
ok.

The Tiger DVD has a "MacOSX10.2.8.pkg", and this seems to be the
recommended version with Tiger. It seems to be ok when using the IDE,
but I have not had any success in getting the command-line tools to work
under Tiger. Even the minimal program

int main() {}

yields an illegal instruction when I run it on a G4.

> Do I need to reinstall something AFTER I installed Tiger?
> I already have a /Developer folder but no SDK folder inside.

Install "XCode Tools/Packages/MacOSX10.2.8.pkg".
Don't forget to change your Source Tree as mentioned above.

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Michael Wingfield - 22 May 2005 16:57 GMT

Thanks Dave and Stephane for all your help. I am back in business.
Aren't newsgroups wonderful?!

Mike

>>>>Specifically what are the steps we need to do to point to /10.2.8 SDK/ ?
>>>
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> Install "XCode Tools/Packages/MacOSX10.2.8.pkg".
> Don't forget to change your Source Tree as mentioned above.

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