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Macintosh Desktop CodeWarrior Development Tools

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Developer - 14 May 2005 09:46 GMT
Hello,

In Metrowerks site, the CodeWarrior Development Tools for Mac is
temporarily unavailable.
What is the status of this product and the PowerPlant framework?

Thanks
jonhoyle@mac.com - 17 May 2005 18:16 GMT
Presumably, CodeWarrior 9.5 will be back once it has been certified to
be purged of all x86 technology.  As for PowerPlant, Metrowerks still
has "PowerPlant Framework for Mac®" listed in their Discontinued
Products page at http://www.metrowerks.com/Discontinued/default.htm ,
although we are told that they probably meant the Windows version, not
the Mac.

The future of PowerPlant X is an excellent question which I hope is to
be addressed with CW 10's release.  My hope is that PP is modified to
be a C++ wrapper around Interface Builder-created nib files, as I.B. is
designated by Apple to be *THE* User Interface design tool of the
future.

Jonathan Hoyle
Eastman Kodak
MW Ron - 19 May 2005 16:40 GMT
>Presumably, CodeWarrior 9.5 will be back once it has been certified to
>be purged of all x86 technology.  As for PowerPlant, Metrowerks still
>has "PowerPlant Framework for Mac®" listed in their Discontinued
>Products page at http://www.metrowerks.com/Discontinued/default.htm ,
>although we are told that they probably meant the Windows version, not
>the Mac.

correct it is supposed to read the PowerPlant Cross Platform tools that
are discontinued.

Ron

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MW Ron - 19 May 2005 16:41 GMT
>Hello,
>
>In Metrowerks site, the CodeWarrior Development Tools for Mac is
>temporarily unavailable.
>What is the status of this product and the PowerPlant framework?

They are still being recertified.  I checked today but still don't have
any estimated time.  It may be soon ir may be late it is matter of
making sure everything is legal.

Ron

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Developer - 21 May 2005 14:00 GMT
Thank you for the helpful information.
We are looking for a cross platform development environment for a new
Mac application. This application already exists on Windows
(VisualStudio MFC C++).
The CodeWarrior with the PowerPlant C++ environment is one of the
options.
larry@skytag.com - 21 May 2005 14:59 GMT
Not anymore. In what must be one of the stupiest business decisions I
can imagine, Metrowerks has sold off its Windows support.

FWIW, what kind of bonehead management would do this in a way that
requires removing the support from an *existing* product? I would
understand removing it from Pro 10, but to take an existing product off
the market while you remove functionality has to be one of *the*
dumbest moves I've ever seen.

On the bright side of all this, maybe we're one step closer to MW
selling off the Mac tools to someone who'll take them seriously.

Larry
Rail Jon Rogut - 22 May 2005 07:13 GMT
I'm in a similar situation.. deciding whether to use Objective-C and
Cocoa... or PowerPlant -- my concern is with the future of PowerPlant.. is
it worth the investment in time with no guarantee of the future of the
framework?  I'd love to use C++ (over Objective-C), but I'm not sure if
it'll be smarter to learn Cocoa in the long run.

   Rail
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> Thank you for the helpful information.
> We are looking for a cross platform development environment for a new
> Mac application. This application already exists on Windows
> (VisualStudio MFC C++).
> The CodeWarrior with the PowerPlant C++ environment is one of the
> options.
jonhoyle@mac.com - 25 May 2005 23:17 GMT
I too prefer C++ to Objective C/Cocoa, and anytime before now it would
have been an easy decision to go via PowerPlant.  However, it has been
two years since Metrowerks has released CodeWarrior 9 and they have
been pretty tight-lipped about version 10.  Normally they have new
releases every year, with CW 9/Mac released in 2003.  Unfortunately,
they wasted 2004 for the CW 9/Win released which was killed less than a
year later.  Perhaps CW 10 will be truly compelling and draw people
back, but at this point Metrowerks has lost a great deal of credibility
about its dedication to the Mac market.

The only recommendation I would give is to wait another couple weeks
and see what Metrowerks announces at this year's WWDC (1st week of
June).  This is their final Do-or-Die moment to wow the Macintosh
development community (assuming it's not already too late). I am hoping
for the best, but  preparing for the worst.  After WWDC, it will
probably be obvious which way to go.

Jonathan Hoyle
Eastman Kodak
Rail Jon Rogut - 27 May 2005 04:21 GMT
>> After WWDC, it will
> probably be obvious which way to go.

Thanks Jonathan

I'll wait to see what happens.

Regards.

   Rail
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