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Key board issue?

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Joseph Littleshoes - 27 Sep 2008 05:38 GMT
Anybody got any idea why i suddenly have to unplug the key board from my
iMac and plug it back in to make it function?

This only happens when i restart it in the morning, works fine all day
long, i turn it off, and next day when i turn it on the keyboard & mouse
wont work unless i unplug it and then plug it back in.
--
JL
Smoothy - 30 Sep 2008 22:46 GMT
> Anybody got any idea why i suddenly have to unplug the key board from my
> iMac and plug it back in to make it function?
>
> This only happens when i restart it in the morning, works fine all day
> long, i turn it off, and next day when i turn it on the keyboard & mouse
> wont work unless i unplug it and then plug it back in.
It happens here too - no rhyme nor reason just doesn't work.  Stick it
in a new USB socket (same hub) and off it goes!  Bizarre!
Flash1296 - 02 Oct 2008 14:27 GMT
> Anybody got any idea why i suddenly have to unplug the key board from my
> iMac and plug it back in to make it function?
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> --
> JL

You must be a newbie.
Why on Earth would you be be shutting down and restarting your Mac on
a daily basis ?
Just put your Mac to sleep.
Are you aware that your Mac runs automatic Unix maintenance scripts on
your Mac (daily, weekly and monthly routines) at 4:00 a.m. -- as long
as your Mac is running.
I am a power user and have been a mac Expert since shortly after the
1984 inception.
I have several networked and running 24/7.
Unless you are not going to use your Mac for a couple of days, at the
least, let it run.
It is particularly bad for your Hard Drive to reboot so often and in
sleep mode the power consumption is nil.
Smoothy - 06 Oct 2008 15:22 GMT
I am certainly a newbie - only a year or so's experience of Macs.  I
thought switching off was what one did.

Is this true about the unix maintenance?

I'll try sleep mode from now on.

S

PS:  Nice CV ;-)

>> Anybody got any idea why i suddenly have to unplug the key board from my
>> iMac and plug it back in to make it function?
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> It is particularly bad for your Hard Drive to reboot so often and in
> sleep mode the power consumption is nil.
Chris - 07 Oct 2008 05:12 GMT
> I am certainly a newbie - only a year or so's experience of Macs.  I
> thought switching off was what one did.
>
> Is this true about the unix maintenance?

Yes, true. If one knows what one is doing you can change the times for
the scripts to run. Or get a utility such as Onyx (versiontracker.com)
and run them on demand.

Don't leave it in sleep mode long term however. If you use it every day,
put it to sleep. If you go out of town for a week, turn it off.
Smoothy - 10 Oct 2008 08:53 GMT
Can you tell me more about Unix night time maintenance please?  What
initiates this process - Apple?  What does it do please.

>> I am certainly a newbie - only a year or so's experience of Macs.  I
>> thought switching off was what one did.
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> Don't leave it in sleep mode long term however. If you use it every day,
> put it to sleep. If you go out of town for a week, turn it off.
Chris - 11 Oct 2008 02:45 GMT
> Can you tell me more about Unix night time maintenance please?  What
> initiates this process - Apple?  What does it do please.

A Unix command called Cron initiates the scripts.

The daily script removes old log files, "scratch" and "junk" files,
backs up the NetInfo database, reports a variety of system and network
statistics, and rotates the system.log file. Under Tiger and Leopard,
the daily script also cleans up scratch fax files and prunes asl.log,
the log for the Apple System Logging facility.

The weekly script rebuilds the locate and whatis databases and rotates
the following log files: ftp.log, lookupd.log, lpr.log, mail.log,
netinfo.log, ipfw.log, ppp.log, and secure.log.

The monthly script reports per-user usage accounting and rotates the
wtmp, install.log, and cu.modem.log files.

It is possible to use Cron to schedule other scripts as well. For
example, repair permissions on a regular basis, sync folders and so on.

Some say that Leopard will run the scripts at the first available time
if the machine was off or asleep. I am not running Leopard yet so cannot
confirm.

A very useful utility for modifying schedules is CronniX. CronniX is
available on Versiontracker.com
Chris - 11 Oct 2008 03:22 GMT
> > Can you tell me more about Unix night time maintenance please?  What
> > initiates this process - Apple?  What does it do please.
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> A very useful utility for modifying schedules is CronniX. CronniX is
> available on Versiontracker.com

A followup with regards to Leopard - launchd has taken over the job os
scheduling the scripts. CronniX will run but doesn't allow you to change
anything any longer.

Using Google, it appears Lingon is the replacement for CronniX under
Leopard.
See http://tuppis.com/lingon/
Oliver - 11 Oct 2008 09:03 GMT
Does this mean its a good idea to leave a Mac running at night from time
to time?

>>> Can you tell me more about Unix night time maintenance please?  What
>>> initiates this process - Apple?  What does it do please.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Leopard.
> See http://tuppis.com/lingon/
Chris - 11 Oct 2008 16:34 GMT
> Does this mean its a good idea to leave a Mac running at night from time
> to time?

Up to you.

Since you can run them on command, I would say no.
Oliver - 11 Oct 2008 17:19 GMT
OK, and bearing in mind that you're talking to a newbie contaminated by
nearly twenty years windows exposure, could you talk me through how to
run these?  I have 10.5.5 on my Mac.

TIA

Oliver
_______________________

>> Does this mean its a good idea to leave a Mac running at night from time
>> to time?
>
> Up to you.
>
> Since you can run them on command, I would say no.
Chris - 11 Oct 2008 20:45 GMT
> OK, and bearing in mind that you're talking to a newbie contaminated by
> nearly twenty years windows exposure, could you talk me through how to
> run these?  I have 10.5.5 on my Mac.

I suggest you go to Versiontracker.com and make sure you are in the OSX
section.
http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/

Search for OnyX and download.

When you run it there is a Maintenance tab option. The scripts will be
here and you check which you want to run and execute or run your
selections on that particular tab.

I am still running 10.4.10 but OnyX should not change much in how the
options are selected. I cannot run the very latest version as it's for
10.5 only.
Anic297 - 17 Oct 2008 11:58 GMT
Flash1296 a écrit :
>> Anybody got any idea why i suddenly have to unplug the key board from my
>> iMac and plug it back in to make it function?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> your Mac (daily, weekly and monthly routines) at 4:00 a.m. -- as long
> as your Mac is running.

I'm not a newbie to Macs, only to Unix stuffs... (indeed, I don't
restart my Mac every day ;-)   )
But your answer above suggests that if one puts the computer to sleep,
the scripts will run at the hour you said.
Well, unless the computer wakes up (after all, this capability is built
into the Mac), I can hardly believe the scripts will run on a sleeping
machine...
 
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